Cardinal was the same thing. I'm just very glad that she has been able to go on to Hachette, and the women... and pretty much everyone I've dealt with there has been a woman so far, but the women at Hachette are really, really great. © Bad Producer Productions 2016-2020 | Terms of use. It was challenging, to say the very least. Many people entrusted their secrets to be told here for the first time. I mean, one of the things that really impressed me during the whole St. Kevins process, was that that community... it's hard to explain for people who don't belong to it, that school has such a strong culture. They include “one senior member of a religious order”, “another Royal Commission source”, “one of the most senior priests on the Curia of the Melbourne Archdiocese at the time”, “one Church official”, “officials in the church”, “a friend…who is a mother in the neighbourhood”, “someone who works around the Royal Commission”, “the father-in-law of an ABC journalist”, “people who knew [George Pell] in his Ballarat days” – and more besides – plus the occasional “many”. I hope that Witness will have the same impact. She's like, ‘You just need a break, Louise. But also, I want to write books that do change a little part of the world, and do get people thinking, and fortunately, I certainly was able to do that with Cardinal. Here’s why – as documented in The Ten Howlers in Louise Milligan’s Cardinal. Why would you do that? It's a little bit like being a doctor, I suppose. We respectfully recognise Elders past, present and future. Louise Milligan won the Civic Choice Award for the Melbourne Prize for Literature. His latest is a forensic analyses of Louise Milligan’s book CARDINAL. So being in Fr. Yeah. Book review: Witness, by Louise Milligan (Hachette). I can only take so much time off work, so it ends up meaning that I'll work all day, and then write all night, and that's a really hard thing to go through, and I've got two children, and I've got a husband and a family, and I need to have a bit of time off. It's not going to get read by many people, and they've spent so much time and put so much heartache into it, but really, it just goes nowhere. Louise Milligan Milligan had been preparing to write about Pell’s evidence by interviewing a number of Ballarat survivors while making arrangements to go to Sydney to cover the Royal Commission. The book is a testament to the most intimate stories of complainants. They wanted to protect him, and so as I said, it didn't matter what happened, they would always go into bat for him. LOUISE: Yeah. Within days, News Limited commentators, including The Sydney Institute’s Gerard Henderson, pointed out that it showed that Ashton was prejudging the matter. Pell standing there in front of you – you were safe and protected. Ms Milligan does not explain why Fr Pell’s accommodation with Ridsdale was “infamous” – but not (then) Fr. It won the 2017 Walkley Book Award but also brought Milligan the ire of Pell’s vocal public defenders. Others have clear “recollections” of events which never happened. I love her so much. Any decision by Victoria Police to charge Cardinal Pell – which Louise Milligan is barracking for – would strike at the reputation of one of the leading social conservatives in the Vatican. It's just not necessary. She is a former Supreme Court correspondent for The Australian Newspaper Louise as well as the Royal Commission on the organization's response to child abuse. George Pell, the anti-hero of Cardinal, is one of the high profile social conservatives within contemporary Catholicism – and, as such, an enemy of self-proclaimed progressives. There's no other forum in society where it would happen. We need to know that, because that can't happen to people. I was home-schooling two children, one with additional needs, and eventually, one of my kids ended up going next door to my dad's place, but I was still home-schooling my son at that point. l even spoke to a boarder recently and he said they were a tight little group with only good memories. Everyone was happily surprised and someone asked what they should now call him, “Your Eminence” or “Father” or just “George” like they used to. It appears that Louise Milligan’s reluctance to enter into a discussion about Cardinal turns on her determination not to have her case for the prosecution weakened in any way. Pell had many roles at our school Villa Maria. I could've saved them the trouble and actually, I probably could've avoided some of the tortured prose, but that's another issue. Louise Milligan is an investigative reporter for ABC TV's Four Corners. She's been in the trenches there with me, and it's been a very difficult process, and she lost her job at MUP during that process, in what I found, a profoundly, profoundly unfair process by the University of Melbourne, and one that I felt... if I was a student, I would feel really, really concerned about, because it was a major cultural institution interfering in the editorial independence of its publishing house. Saxon Mullins says in the book, ‘I wasn't hovering above my own body. What is the fact checking process? I'm so sorry’, and I'm like, ‘I'm fine’. It was very, very, well-known, and I don't want to go into that because it's all done and dusted now, but I was a witness in his committal proceeding, and it was an absolutely excoriating process. She pieces together a series of disturbing pictures of the Cardinal's knowledge and his actions, many of which are being told here for the first time. It always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Louise Milligan is an investigative reporter for ABC TV's Four Corners and the bestselling author of Cardinal: The Rise and Fall of George Pell, which won the Walkley Book Award and broke massive international news about the court case and successive and ultimately successful appeals involving one of the most senior members of the Catholic Church hierarchy. When speaking to past students we all have our own special memories of Villa. During these years my parents – but mainly my mother had good contact with Fr. But then we were really stuck in our homes, and I had children trying to come to terms with the anxiety of living in pandemic, but also the anxiety of trying to home-school and all of that. LM then speaks of her experience at the committal. It adds a whole other layer of making sure every single detail is right. LOUISE: Well, I'm quite lucky in the sense that at Four Corners, we have a really rigorous fact checking process for every story that we do, and so with Four Corners stories, we have myself, the reporter, a producer, and a researcher, that work on the story all the way through, and at the end, we go through, line by line, and the three of us have a meeting. Two examples illustrate the author’s tactic as pretending to quote George Pell’s statements against him. I feel really lucky to be able to publish books, and to have Louise Adler, who is my publisher and champion. It is a crime, and a horror. I don't know. But we rely upon a whole lot of other people to help us do that work, and I do think that one of the things that I find a difficult with Australians is, I don't think that Australians are naturally inclined towards putting themselves out there, taking a risk. So Milligan, an apparently disillusioned ex-Catholic, fits very well within the ABC culture – which also accommodates a number of atheists, many of the sneering disposition. And I knew that there was good stuff there, but it's hard to look at it objectively when you're just so tired. But people will say what they say, and the bottom line is, that there are a lot of vested interests out there, and certainly in relation to the whole Cardinal Pell issue, one thing that really disturbed all the way along with that was that people took a position from day dot. To speak outside that community, to criticise the school, is seen as a massive thing. Rather, it is the case for the prosecution – primarily researched by ABC journalist Louise Milligan while working for the taxpayer funded public broadcaster. Milligan apparently believes in the primacy of conscience. That can't happen to young people. The scandal of child sexual abuse in the Catholic Church has been known for decades. Where will you go next? So she wrote a rambling response which was published in The Age yesterday. The author sets out her position early in Cardinal  where she writes: While Pell sniffed the wind [of change within Catholicism at the time of Vatican II], he did not go with the revolution. LOUISE: Well, Witness is about what it's like to be a complainant of a sexual crime in the criminal justice system, and how the criminal justice system fails those people so spectacularly. The author’s agenda is wider than this. THE TEN HOWLERS IN LOUISE MILLIGAN’S CARDINAL. The description of George Pell in Louise Milligan’s book certainly doesn’t fit the George Pell the people from St. Francis Xavier College and Aquinas College knew then and still know today. And MUP is not what it once was, and that is a really, really sad, sad, development. I mean, I do love writing books, but they take a thousand percent out of me, and it's very intense. Usually, it's a minute 20 for a news story. Louise Milligan's book 'Cardinal' was removed from sale by its publishers in Victoria (Image via MUP) A Prince of the Roman Curia is facing serious charges relating to historic child sex offences — but the Doc can’t talk about that. Like many journalists, Ms Milligan does not take well to criticism. I don't understand why they can just push away everything else that has been exposed about this person, but it just tells you a lot about the way that some people in the community are really fixed in their views, and they just don't want to know anything that might tear down people that align with them. LOUISE: Well, for a start, on a very basic level, it gives you a lot more time to really reflect on and flesh out the issues that you're exploring. Just seen as bit players in the most terrible thing that ever happened in their lives. There is a, I think, disturbing trend in Australian culture, and we see it overseas as well, polarisation of opinion, where people line up on either sides of a debate, and never the twain shall meet. You get used to seeing the blood and guts. Indeed Justice Peter McClellan and counsel-assisting Gail Furness SC were, at times, hostile to the person who spent more time in the witness box than any other. He had no roles at all. It was just about that, and Louise read it and she knew Leigh Sales, who I was then working with at the 7:30 program, and she asked Leigh to get in contact with me. We have a high standard of proof beyond reasonable doubt. Why do you trust her to be on your side when you are taking on institutions and power brokers, I guess? My brother tells the story of the Aquinas College “20 year Reunion” party being crashed by the Archbishop of Sydney. The school known locally as Villa Maria is tucked away in the hills as you enter Ballarat from the east. ASTRID: Now, you are a journalist and have a great respect for the truth, but I'm interested in... What kind of fact checking goes into a book? Self-proclaimed progressives or liberals within the Church get a sympathetic run in Cardinal. ABC investigative journalist Louise Milligan, who broke stories about abuse in the Catholic church for ABC TV programs 7.30 and Four Corners says her award-winning book … I mean, obviously there are still some really good, lovely people working there, and they're producing some worthy books and so on, but it's not what it was. I mean, a lot of people ask me about, ‘It must be terrible hearing these stories about child abuse and sexual assault and sexual abuse and all that sort of thing over and over again’, and yes, it is, but unfortunately you get used to hearing those terrible details of those crimes. According to MUP, Cardinal is based on “forensic and meticulous” research. Her second work is Witness: An investigation into the brutal cost of seeking justice. He would be unlikely to speak so loudly that he could be heard between rooms while (allegedly) attempting to have a secret conversation. Milligan and her supporters have a lot at stake in prosecuting the case against George Pell. There are Old Boys' networks that help them to get jobs, and they rise to the top of professions like the law, and they club together. Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Ben Mathews, Professor, School of Law, Queensland University of Technology Book review: Witness, by Louise Milligan (Hachette). Louise Milligan and Annabel Crabb had a zoom promotional event for Milligan’s latest book Witness in November.
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